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Nathan Lane Is Playing Roy Cohn, Donald Trump’s Lawyer


>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY, WELCOME BACK MY FIRST GUEST TONIGHT IS A TWO TIME TONE-AWARD WINNER STARRING IN THE REVIVAL OF "ANGELS IN AMERICA" ON BROADWAY

PLEASE WELCOME NATHAN LANE ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ♪ ♪ ♪ ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> THANK YOU! OH, BLESS YOU! THANK YOU! WOW! OH, PLEASE >> Stephen: NO, PLEASE YOU KNOW, NATHAN, I JUST WISH YOU WERE MORE COMFORTABLE ON STAGE

YOU'RE LIKE A FISH OUT OF WATER I AM A LONGTIME FAN I CAN'T BELIEVE — >> SAME HERE >> Stephen: THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE MET >> STEPHEN, YOU MEAN, YOU DON'T REMEMBER THAT MAGICAL NIGHT WE SPENT WITH STORM DANIELS? I DIDN'T THINK YOU COULD GET THAT MANY PEOPLE INTO A HOT TUB! >> Stephen: I DON'T REMEMBER HER

>> NOT RINGING A BELL? >> Stephen: NO, I DON'T REMEMBER HER SPANKING YOU WITH A "PLAYBILL" OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT >> OH, YEAH, I WAS A BAD BOY AND REMEMBER AFTERWARDS YOU TOLD HER ALL ABOUT YOUR TREMENDOUS FEAR OF MANATEES SITTING ON YOUR FACE

WHICH, AFTER PUBLIC SPEAKING, IS PEOPLE'S BIGGEST FEAR GOD, IT'S GREAT TO BE BACK AT THE ED SULLIVAN THEATER! ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) I'LL TELL YOU >> Stephen: AND BACK IN THE UNITED STATES >> YES! I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE SINCE THEY FIRED LETTERMAN IT WAS SAD

BUT I LOVE WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH THE PLACE IT'S LIKE SOMEONE TOOK THE HAYDEN PLANETARIUM AND PUT IT ON TOP OF A GAY CRUISE SHIP I FEEL RIGHT AT HOME >> Stephen: THANK YOU VERY MUCH ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) YES

>> NO — >> Stephen: YOU'RE– YOU'RE– YOUR CABIN BOY WILL BE RIGHT OVER >> NO, SERIOUSLY, I AM ALSO A BIG FAN AND LONGTIME FAN OF YOURS SO I AM SO HAPPY TO MEET AND YOU TELL YOU THAT AND FINALLY THRILLED TO BE ON YOUR SHOW IT JUST TOOK FOREVER TO PASS THE PHYSICAL ( LAUGHTER ) NOT TO MENTION THE SWIMSUIT COMPETITION

BUT I'M REHEARSING NOT FAR FROM HERE, SO I DECIDED TO BYPASS YOUR VERY GENEROUS LIMO, AND I JUST GOT AN UBER DRIVER STEVE BANNON SAYS HI, BY THE WAY ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) COMEDY PAUSE, DRINKING THE WATER ( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: NOW– >> SORRY

>> Stephen: IT'S ALL RIGHT >> FOR YOU KIDS OUT THERE, THAT'S THE DANNY THOMAS SPIT-TAKE DON'T LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT ( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: NOW, YOU'VE JUST– SPEAKING OF LEAVING HOME– YOU'VE JUST COME BACK TO THE UNITED STATES RECENTLY >> YES

>> Stephen: YOU WERE OVER IN LONDON FOR SEVEN MONTHS DOING "ANGELS IN AMERICA" OVER THERE HOW WAS NATHAN LANE'S LONDON >> IT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS FOR THE NATIONAL THEATER BUT IT WAS INTERESTING BEING IN ANOTHER COUNTRY WHILE TRUMP WAS COMING INTO THE PRESIDENCY BECAUSE EVERY TIME I WOULD GET IN A CAB, THE DRIVER WOULD HEAR MY ACCENT, AND THE FIRST QUESTION WAS, "DONALD TRUMP, MATE?" ( LAUGHTER ) "WHAT HAPPENED OVER THERE? HAVE YOU ALL GONE INSANE!" ( LAUGHTER ) APPARENTLY, MY DRIVER WAS DICK VAN DYKE ( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: LITTLE PENGUINS

>> SO I WOULD FIND MYSELF TRYING TO EXPLAIN THIS VERY LONG EPISODE OF "BLACK MIRROR" WE HAVE BEEN LIVING THROUGH AND THE MORE YOU TALK, THE MORE THE DETAILS SOUND LIKE THE PLOT OF A CHEAP SPY NOVEL YOU BOUGHT AT THE AIRPORT AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW YOU'RE IN DUBLIN BECAUSE IT'S TAKEN SO LONG TO EXPLAIN AND YOU REALIZE THAT YOU CANNOT EXPLAIN DONALD TRUMP EVEN NOST RADAMUS DOESN'T SEE THAT COMING PUP BUT I AM VERY GLAD TO BE BACK

BUT THAT'S A LONG TRIP FROM LONDON WHICH WAS REALLY ROUGH BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T LET ME BRING MY EMOTIONAL SUPPORT PEACOCK >> Stephen: ON THE PLANE THEY WOULDN'T LET YOU? >> NO ( APPLAUSE ) AND, ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY, IT WAS LONDON, SO MOST PEOPLE JUST THOUGHT MY PEACOCK WAS ELTON JOHN

( CHEERS ) ♪ ♪ ♪ READY? >> Stephen: READY? AND NOW, IN "ANGELS IN AMERICA" YOU PLAY ROY COHN >> I DO

>> Stephen: FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR, WHO IS ROY COHN? >> ROY COHN WAS AN AMERICAN LAWYER HE BECAME FAMOUS FIRST AS THE PROSECUTOR ON THE EPT NAJ TRIAL OF JULIUS AND ETHEL ROSENBERG AND THEN HE BECAME CHIEF COUNSEL FOR SENATOR JOE McCARTHY DURING THE RED SCARE, THE COMMUNIST WITCH HUNTS IN THE 50s HE WAS A FUN GUY AND THEN HE CAME BACK TO NEW YORK, WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL LAWYER AND POWER BROKER

AND THE REASON HEZ NAME HAS BEEN IN THE PAPERS AGAIN– AND SOMEWHERE IN HELL HE'S SMILING OVER THAT– IS BECAUSE HE WAS ALSO DONALD TRUMP'S LAWYER AND MENTOR UNTIL THE DAY HE DIED OF AIDS IN 1986 >> Stephen: NOW, RECENTLY, IT'S BEEN REPORTED THAT IN MARCH OF 2017, AFTER JEFF SESSIONS RECUSED HIM FROM THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION, DONALD TRUMP YELLED, "WHERE'S MY ROY COHN" OKAY >> YES >> Stephen: WAS THE PRESIDENT JUST CALLING FOR NATHAN LANE TO RETURN TO BROADWAY AT THAT POINT? BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A BEAUTIFUL THING WITH THIS AD

THIS IS "THE NEW YORK TIMES" AD FOR THE SHOW "WHERE'S MY ROY COHN?" "HERE" ( APPLAUSE ) >> WELL, YEAH, DONALD FINALLY DID SOMETHING RIGHT NO, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS– HE WAS CALLING OUT IN FRUSTRATION, YOU KNOW, THE NEED FOR — >> Stephen: BECAUSE COHN WAS A FIXER >> OH, YEAH, A PIT BULL WHO WOULD PROTECT HIM AND SAVE HIM

HE WAS ACTING SORT OF LIKE A GUILTY MAN MIGHT ACT >> Stephen: FROM PLAYING ROY COHN, WHAT– DOES IT HELP YOU UNDERSTAND OUR PRESIDENT AT ALL FROM PLAYING THE BY WHO WAS HIS MENTOR AND TAUGHT HIM ABOUT POLITICAL, YOU KNOW, 5 FIST CUFF >> Stephen: >> AN AUDIENCE TODAY MIGHT HEAR SOME OF THE DIALOGUE AND IT MIGHT RING A BELL BUT REALLY, WHAT YOU LEARN IS– WHAT HE LEARNED FROM ROY COHN IS THERE ARE CERTAIN TACTICS THAT ARE VERY FAMILIAR, THAT TRUMP PICKED UP FROM HIM YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS GO ON THE ATTACK, THE COUNTER-ATTACK HIT THE ACCUSER 10 TIMES HARDER AND DEFLECT, AND NEVER ADMIT DEFEAT

AND CERTAINLY — AND THERE'S OUT-AND-OUT LYING WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS IT'S CERTAINLY A MUCH CRIEWRD VERSION OF WHAT ROY COHN USED TO DO HE WAS A BRILLIANT GUY, IF ONLY HE HAD USED IT FOR GOOD RATHER THAN EVIL BUT HE CERTAINLY TAUGHT TRUMP VERY WELL IS AND THEY WERE VERY, VERY CLOSE

>> Stephen: HOW LONG IS "ANGELS IN AMERICA?" BOTH OF THEM >> BOTH OF THEM BECAUSE IT IS TWO PLAYS IT'S A HUGE COMMITMENT ON THE PART AUDIENCE THE FIRST PLAY, THE FIRST PART IS CALLED "MILLENNIUM APPROACHES

" IT IS THREE AND A HALF HOURS AND THE SECOND PLAY, CALLED "PERESTROIKA" IS THREE AND 45 >> Stephen: SO A LITTLE OVER SEVEN HOURS IT'S ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT IT'S ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL

IT'S WORTH EVERY MINUTE OF IT >> IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL PLAY >> Stephen: WHY DO YOU THINK THIS PLAY HAS SPOKEN SO DEEPLY? WHAT DO YOU THINK MAKES IT SUCH A MOVING AND HEART-WRENCHING PLAY? >> WELL, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S THE STORY OF THESE CHARACTERS– THE CENTRAL CHARACTER PLAYED BY THE GREAT ANDREW GARFIELD, A MAN WHO HAS BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH AIDS AND HE'S BEEN ABANDONEDS BY I HAD LOVER, AND IT'S THESE INTERCONNECTING STORIES AND RELATIONSHIPS BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PLAY THAT ISATE IN '85 AND '86, DURING THE REAGAN ERA, AND IT'S SORT OF FOUR YEARS INTO THE AIDS EPIDEMIC AS RON LIEBMAN, WHO ORIDGE 98ED THE ROLE OF ROY COHN USED TO SAY, "EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN LIFE HAPPENS IN THIS PLAY

" AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS, AND I CALLED THIS WRITER, ISAAC BUTLER, WHO HAS WRITTEN– HE'S THE COAUTHOR OF THIS ORAL HISTORY OF "ANGELS IN AMERICA" BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ASK ME, "WHAT IS IT ABOUT?" AND SO HE TOLD ME ( LAUGHTER ) AND HE SAID, "'ANGELANGELS IN AMERICA' AT ITS HEART IS ABOUT BOTH THE NECESSITY AND INEVITABILITY OF CHANGE IT PORTRAYS CHANGE AS BOTH INEVITABLE– THE WORLD ONLY SPINS FORWARD– AND FUNDAMENTAL TO BEING ALIVE IT'S WHAT LIVING THINGS DO AND IT ENDS WITH A VERY SPECIFIC DEMAND FOR THING CHNG BASICALLY WHAT I THINK IT IS SAYING ABOUT CHANGE, IN THE FACE OF NECESSITY AND ABILITY, WE CAN TRY TO RESIST CHANGE WITH ALL OUR MIGHT, THE WAY RAKE AN DID AND TRUMP IS DOING RIGHT NOW, BUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT WILL BE CATASTROPHIC OR WE CAN ENGAGE IN THE DIFFICULT AND PAINFUL WORK OF TRYING TO CHANGE FOR THE BETTER

AND THE PLAY FINDS HOPE IN THE IDEA THAT CHANGE FOR THE BETTER IS ACTUALLY POSSIBLE" ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: LOVELY >> SO THAT'S– THAT'S ONE REASON TO SIT FOR SEVEN AND A HALF HOURS ( LAUGHTER ) , OF COURSE, THEN THERE IS– THERE IS AN ACTOR JAMES McCARTEL, A BRILLIANT ACTOR IN THE SHOW, PLAYS LEWIS SHE'S SCOTTISH

YOU WOULDN'T KNOW IT FROM THE PLAY HE SOUNDS LIKE A NICE JEWISH BOY FROM MANHATTAN BUT HE'S VERY SCOTTISH, AND HIS PARENTS CAME TO SEE THE PLAY IN LONDON AND THEY'RE VERY, VERY SCOTTISH AND HIS FATHER LOOKED AT HIM AND THEY, YOU KNOW, HAD ISSUES WITH THE PLAY– YOU KNOW, THE WAY PARENTS DO

AND HE SAID– THIS IS MY BAD SCOTTISH ACCENT– "YOU DIDN'T TELL ME PUMBA WAS IN THE PLAY" YOU KNOW, SEVEN AND A HALF HOURS OF ANGST AND EMOTION "YOU DIDN'T TELL ME PUMBA WAS IN THE PLAY" AND McCARTEL SAID YOU NEED ROY COHN, NATHAN LANE HE SAID HE PLAYED TAMONE

AND ME LOOKED AT HIS WIFE, "I TOLD YOU HE WAS TAMONE" >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK

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Nathan Lane Is Playing Roy Cohn, Donald Trump’s Lawyer

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