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HIS VERY OWN SON-IN-LAW JARED KUSHNER THE LATEST BOMBSHELL COMES FROM THE "WASHINGTON POST" WHICH REPORTED LAST FRIDAY IN A SECRET MEETING INSIDE TRUMP TOWER IN NEW YORK AT TRUMP TOWER, JARED KUSHNER AND RUSSIA'S AMBASSADOR TO WASHINGTON DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY OF SETTING UP A SECRET AND SECURE COMMUNICATIONS CHANNEL BETWEEN TRUMP'S TRANSITION TEAM AND THE KREMLIN USING RUSSIAN DIPLOMATIC FACILITIES IN AN APPARENT MOVE TO SHIELD THEIR DISCUSSIONS FROM MONITORING

REPORTS IT WAS KUSHNER WHO ASKED FOR THE SECURE CHANNEL AND THE AMBASSADOR WAS TAKEN ABACK NEITHER THE WHITE HOUSE NOR KUSHNER'S ATTORNEY COMMENTED LOOT INTO RUSSIA'S MEDDLING IN THE ELECTION, NOT AS A SUSPECT BUT SOURCE OF INFORMATION INVESTIGATORS FOCUS ON MEETINGS WITH SERGEY KISLYAK, AS WELL AS A MEETING WITH A RUSSIAN BANK SUBJECT TO US

SANCTIONS KUSHNER'S ATTORNEYS TELLS NBC NEWS, OF COURSE, MR KUSHNER VOLUNTEERED TO SHARE WITH CONGRESS WHAT HE KNOWS ABOUT THESE MEETINGS HE WILL DO THE SAME IF HE'S CONVICTED IN CONNECTION WITH ANY OTHER INQUIRY MEANWHILE REUTERS REPORTED ON FRIDAY THAT KUSHNER HAD MULTIPLE UNDISCLOSED CONTACTS WITH KISLYAK BETWEEN APRIL AND NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR AND THAT FBI INVESTIGATORS ARE, QUOTE, EXAMINING WHETHER RUSSIANS SUBJECTED TO KUSHNER OR OTHER TRUMP AIDES THAT RELAXING ECONOMIC SANCTIONS WOULD ALLOW RUSSIAN BANKS TO OFFER FINANCING TO PEOPLE WITH TIES TO TRUMP

KUSHNER'S ATTORNEY SAID KUSHNER HAS NO RECOLLECTION OF THESE MEETINGS JOINING ME NOW NAYYERA HAQ, MR NANTZ, FORMER CIA AGENT JACK RICE AND FORMER FBI DOUBLE AGENT WOW, WOW, AND WOW I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU, NAYYERA, HOW NORMAL OR TYPICAL WOULD IT BE FOR SON-IN-LAW OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OR ANYONE IN THE ADMINISTRATION TO NOT ONLY SET UP A BACK CHANNEL WITH FOREIGN ADVERSARIAL COUNTRY BUT SUGGEST DOING SO IN THAT COUNTRY'S SECURE FACILITY

>> IT IS SO BEYOND THE PALE, IT DOES START TO BOGGLE THE MIND AND LEAD TO WHY, WHY DO ALL THESE ACTIONS, ALL THESE MEETINGS IN SUCH QUICK ORDER AFTER THE ELECTION F THERE WAS A GOAL TO HAVE A BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH RUSSIA, WHY NOT WAIT A FEW WEEKS AND MONTHS THE IDEA THIS WAS HAPPENING DURING TRANSITION, WITHOUT AWARENESS OF INTEL AND DIPLOMATIC COMMUNITIES DOES POINT TO SOMETHING UNTOWARD HAPPENING >> THE FACT THE RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR WAS TAKEN ABACK BY THE SUGGESTION BY KUSHNER THEY ACTUALLY MEET INSIDE THE RUSSIAN FACILITIES WHICH THE RUSSIANS ARE MONITORING AND THE US CANNOT

IT IS BIZARRE, MALCOLM, IT IS WHAT DOES IT SAY TO YOU? >> WELL, FIRST OFF, IT'S BIZARRE ENING TO A CERTAIN EXTENT A LOT OF PEOPLE CERTAINLY IN THE NEWS MEDIA I'VE HEARD OF IN THE LAST 24 HOURS ARE PULLING THEIR PUNCHES ON THIS THING THIS IS NOT BIZARRE, THIS IS INCREDIBLY SUSPICIOUS THERE IS NO REASON THAT ANY OF THESE COMMUNICATIONS COULD HAVE HAPPENED, MUCH LESS 18 OF THEM NO OTHER ADMINISTRATION IN TRANSITION HAS EVER HAD COMMUNICATIONS WITH A FOREIGN ADVERSARY AT ALL

CERTAINLY NOT LIKE THIS ONE NOW, WITH REGARDS TO JARED KUSHNER'S RECOMMENDATION, PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT MAYBE HE WAS JUST NAIVE THIS ISN'T NAIVE THIS IS A MAN WHO CAME FROM A BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY HE KNOWS WHAT THE MEANING OF GOING INTO ANOTHER CORPORATION'S HEADQUARTERS AND THEN USING THEIR SECURE COMMUNICATIONS WOULD MEAN AND HOW THAT WOULD LOOK CERTAINLY TO THE UNITED STATES

THERE IS A LOT MORE THAN WHY HERE, WHICH IS ALWAYS THE QUESTION WE IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY ASK ANOTHER QUESTION THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED RIGHT NOW AND HAS BEEN UNANSWERED SATISFACTORILY, WHAT DID HE INTEND TO TRANSMIT THROUGH RUSSIAN'S SYSTEM TO COMMUNICATE WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN? DAILY PRESIDENTIAL BRIEFING? NUCLEAR CODES? I DON'T KNOW EVERYONE IN INTELLIGENCE HAS TO ASSUME THAT'S WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO THERE IS NO REASON THAT ANY OF THIS HOOF HAPPENED AND THE FBI NEEDS TO DIG INTO THIS RIGHT NOW >> THE FORMER CIA DIRECTOR I DON'T KNOW BRENNAN GAVE TESTIMONY THAT I THINK IS GOING TO WIND UP ACCORDING TO THE HISTORY BOOKS WHEN THIS BIZARRE PERIOD IS RECOUNTED

I WANT TO PLAY A LITTLE BIT OF THAT THIS IS THE TESTIMONY BEFORE THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE ABOUT RUSSIA'S BRAZEN INTERFERENCE IN THIS ELECTION LET'S PLAY THAT >> I ENCOUNTERED AND AWARE OF INFORMATION AND INTELLIGENCE THAT REVEALED CONTACTS AND INTERACTIONS BETWEEN RUSSIAN OFFICIALS AND US

PERSONS INVOLVED IN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN THAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT BECAUSE OF KNOWN RUSSIAN EFFORTS TO SUBORN SUCH INDIVIDUALS IT RAISED QUESTIONS IN MY MIND IF RUSSIANS WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN WITH THOSESE INDIVIDUALS OFTEN PEOPLE WHO GO ALONG THAT PATH DON'T REALIZE THEY ARE ON THAT PATH UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE >> ON THURSDAY, THE IMMEDIATE THOUGHT IN PEOPLE'S MINDS WAS MIKE FLYNN, THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE ALONG A TREASONOUS PLAN MIGHT BE

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT IN ORDER, "WASHINGTON POST" PIECE KUSHNER CONVEYS TO THE RUSSIANS HE'S AWARE IT WOULD BE POLITICALLY SENSITIVE TO MEET PUBLICLY BUT IT WAS NECESSARY FOR THE TRUMP TEAM TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THEIR COMMUNICATIONS WITH GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, RIGHT? YOU ALSO HAVE THE BANK — THE SANCTIONED BANK THAT'S IN THOSE MEETINGS AS WELL ACCORDING TO THE REUTERS STORY THE RUSSIANS CONVEYED A KUSHNER THAT HAVING THESE CONTACTS AND IMPROVING RELATIONS MIGHT MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR LOANS TO BE MADE AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE WITHIN THE ORBIT OF DONALD TRUMP AND WE KNOW THAT JARED KUSHNER HAS A BUILDING ON FIFTH AVENUE, 66 FIFTH AVENUE THAT HE'S IN DEEP, DEEP DEBT TO, THAT HE NEEDS MONEY FOR, THAT HE'S SOUGHT LOANS FOR YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS JACK RICE IT DOES FEEL LIKE THERE'S EVEN NAIVETE HERE

>> IT'S CRIMINAL PEOPLE IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, PROSECUTORS STARTING TO SHARPEN THEIR KNIVES HERE THIS ISN'T ABOUT KUSHNER SAYING I NEVER MET THESE GUYS, WHICH HE DID WAIT A SECOND THEY WERE PHONE CALLS

WAIT, THEY WEREN'T PHONE CALLS, THEY WERE FACE-TO-FACE MEETINGS WAIT, THEY WEREN'T FACE-TO-FACE MEETINGS, I WAS TALKING ABOUT A BACK CHANNEL AT THE RUSSIAN EMBASSY LET'S THINK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE HERE WE'RE FINALLY AT A PLACE WHERE WE'RE STARTING TO NOT SEE LIES BUT THIS STARTS TO SOUND LIKE THE CONSPIRACY PEOPLE IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY ARE PETRIFIED ABOUT WHAT MALCOLM SAID, IF THIS BLOWS APART, GOES TO THE PIECES, WHAT IS IT THIS MAN WAS TRYING TO GET TO THE RUSSIANS

WHAT IS IT THAT WAS ACTUALLY COMING OUT THE PROBLEM THAT WE REALLY HAVE IS THAT AMERICANS DIE AS A RESULT OF THIS PEOPLE, INCLUDING OUR ALLIES, CAN DIE BECAUSE OF THIS THIS IS WHY YOU START TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A CRIMINAL PERSPECTIVE THIS IS THE REASON YOU HAVE TO START CONTEMPLATING WHY YOU PROSECUTE PEOPLE WHO DO THIS SORT OF THING

AS A FORMER CIA OFFICER, AGAIN, IF I WAS GOING TO RECRUIT SOMEBODY, THE REASON KISLYAK WAS SHOCKED BY THIS, YOU NEVER WOULD WITH A GUY IN THE EMBASSY BUT SOMEWHERE ELSE THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAT NEEDS TO BE DUG INTO THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAT NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT IT'S EXTRAORDINARY >> ONE OTHER PIECE FROM THE REUTERS PIECE

THIS IS THE REUTERS PIECE KUSHNER AND FLYNN WHO WERE IN THIS MEETING TOGETHER DISCUSSED WITH KISLYAK, KNOWN TO BE A SKY RECRUITER, THE IDEA OF CREATING THIS BACK CHANNEL BETWEEN TRUMP AND RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN BYPASS DIPLOMATS AND INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES, ACCORDING TO TWO SOURCES THE OTHER LITTLE PIECE, FBI INVESTIGATORS ARE EXAMINING WHEN RUSSIANS SUGGESTED TO KUSHNER OR OTHER TRUMP AIDES RELAXING ECONOMIC SANCTIONS WOULD ALLOW BANKS TO OFFER FINANCING TO PEOPLE WITH TIES TO TRUMP WE GET RIGHT BACK TO THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT THAT MAKE PEOPLE VULNERABLE TO BE RECRUITED NEED AND GREED

HAVE YOU SOMEBODY IN JARED KUSHNER WHO NEEDS MONEY HE NEEDS MONEY TO FINANCE HIS BUILDINGS YOU START TO SEE — YOU WERE ALWAYS ASKING THE QUESTION OF THE WHY ARE YOU STARTING TO FEEL LIKE THE WHY MIGHT BE THE NEED FOR FINANCING >> WHEN THERE IS DOUBT, THERE IS NO DOUBT

WE ARE DANCING AROUND THIS ABSOLUTELY, JOY, YOU'RE RIGHT WHAT THIS IS IS A PATTERN IS EMERGING HERE WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE OMITTING THINGS SF 86, FORGET ABOUT CRIMINALITY MORE THE PATTERN, PATTERN OF DECEPTION

WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO DECEIVE INVESTIGATORS, TRYING TO HIDE THIS WHEN YOU HAVE FLYNN AND KUSHNER SITTING DOWN AND HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, NO LONGER ONE PERSON DOING IT NOW YOU HAVE 2014 IF YOU HAVE TWO SPIES, NOT JUST ONE BUT A SPY RING IF YOU HAVE TWO, IT'S MUCH MORE LIKELY THERE ARE THREE TO GO BACK TO JACK AND NAYYERA AND MALCOLM HAS SAID, THIS WARRANTS A MUCH, MUCH WIDER INVESTIGATION

I HAVE TO TELL YOU WE'VE HEARD EVERYTHING FROM KUSHNER ONTO THE ELECTION IN DECEMBER, THIS SEEMS TO BE THE TIME IT CAME OUT WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS MUCH MORE LIKE FLYNN, WE HAVE TO GO BACK THREE, FOUR YEARS WAS KUSHNER TARGETED, RECRUITED YEARS AGO MUCH AS FLYNN WAS THIS IS A MASSIVE THING THIS IS NOT AN INVESTIGATION

THIS IS STILL AN ACTIVE CRIME SCENE WE STILL HAVE WHATEVER THE RUSSIANS STARTED IN JANUARY ARE STILL IN PLAY UNTIL WE IDENTIFY THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE POTENTIAL ASSETS AND PHYSICALLY REMOVE THEM, THE RUSSIAN OPERATION IS CONTINUING MY GOODNESS, THIS IS JUST NOTHING SHORT OF BREATHTAKING >> I'M GOING TO GO AROGO AROUND ROOM AND COMING BACK TO MALCOLM QUICKLY ON THIS OTHER PIECE

SAID IF THERE'S TWO, IT'S A RING LET'S GO TO THREE, CARTER PAGE CARTER PAGE IN THIS STORY UNDERSOLD BECAUSE SO MANY OTHER THINGS COMING OUT OF THE FIRE HOSE, THIS DIDN'T MAKE TO BE A BIG HEADLINE "WASHINGTON POST" THURSDAY, MULTIPLE PEOPLE FAMILIAR WITH CAMPAIGNS, CARTER PAGE BROUGHT INTO THE FOLD AT A TIME OF DESPERATION WITH THE TRUMP TEAM AS TRUMP WAS STARTING TO WIN PRIM AREAS, HE WAS UNDER INCREASING PRESSURE TO SHOW HE HAD A LEGITIMATE PRESIDENTIAL CALIBER SECURITY TEAM MOST WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM

ALONG CAME CARTER PAGE ANYONE WHO CAME IN WITH A PULSE, RESUME AND SEEMED LEGIT WOULD BE WELCOME HAVE YOU CARTER PAGE, WHO HAS AN OFFICE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM TRUMP TOWER IN MANHATTAN, WALKS ACROSS THE TRELLIS, WALKS HIMSELF IN TRUMP TOWER, PRESENTS HIMSELF WITH PHD AND BACKGROUND IN RUSSIAN BUSINESS AND HE GETS ON THE CAMPAIGN DOES IT SOUND LIKE SOMEBODY WHO WAS ADDING HIMSELF TO THE CAMPAIGN FOR A REASON? >> ADDING HIMSELF TO THE CAMPAIGN OR INJECTING HIMSELF INTO A NETWORK OF ASSETS I THINK OVER AT THE NATIONAL TERRORISM DIVISION AND COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE — FOR THE COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE DIVISION BUT COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS WHO ARE NOW INVESTIGATING THIS, THE NATION'S SPY HUNTERS, I CAN TELL YOU FOR A FACT, THEY ARE JUST GOING TO ASSUME RIGHT NOW THAT THEY HAVE A NETWORK OF SPIES OR ASSETS WHO ARE WITING OR UNWITING

CARTER PAGE MAY HAVE BEEN A WALKER THAT'S A PERSON THAT WALKS IN AND OFFERS HIMSELF FOR SERVICES BUT MAY BE AN INFILTRATION AGENT IT'S POSSIBLE HE COULD BE AN INFILTRATION AGENT FOR US, WORKING FOR THE FBI OR, IN FACT, WORKING FOR THE RUSSIANS WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT BUT WHEN YOU TIE ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUALS IN, CARTER PAYABLE, PAUL MANAFORT, MICHAEL FLYNN, JARED KUSHNER, MICHAEL COHEN, JEFF SESSIONS, EVERY ONE OF THEM HAS ONE NEXUS, THAT NEXUS IS SERGEY KISLYAK, RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED STATES

EVERY ONE OF THESE PEOPLE TRIED TO HIDE THEIR CONNECTIONS WITH HIM THIS WOULD DEFINITELY BE CONSIDERED AN ACTIVE SUSPICIOUS NETWORK LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO ASSUME THERE'S AN ESPIONAGE COMPONENT TO THIS OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE NEGLIGENT TO NOT BELIEVE THESE PEOPLE WERE BEING HANDLED BY THE RUSSIANS THEMSELVES >> A HELL OF A COINCIDENCE, ALL THESE TAKING PLACE IN TRUMP TOWER WHERE ANOTHER GUY LIVES, PAUL MANAFORT, WHO LIVES IN TRUMP TOWER, DONE BUSINESS WITH DONALD TRUMP, NEFARIOUS REGIONS INCLUDING UKRAINE PRO-RUSSIAN, MANAFORT AND FLYNN, RUSSIAN SPIES COLLECTED INFORMATION SENIOR — YOU'VE GOT MANAFORT'S MONEY TRAFFICKED THROUGH

NOW WE'VE GOT FOUR PEOPLE >> THE NUMBERS KEEP EXPANDING HERE I TRY TO IMAGINE AN FBI AGENT OR GROUP LOOKING AT A RING SOMEWHERE IN MICHIGAN OR NEW JERSEY OR FLORIDA OR ANYWHERE ELSE IF YOU START LOOKING AT THE CONNECTIONS, THAT NEXUS POINT, THAT PLACELACE WHERE THEY ALL C TOGETHER AGAIN, IT IS KISLYAK AND RUSSIANS

IT'S ALSO LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE IF YOU YOU A ONE LIE, YOU'D SAY, WELL, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IT'S NOT JUST ONE BUT TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE FROM EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUALS AS TIME GOES ON, IT EXPANDS IT GETS WORSE AND WORSE

YOU DROP A STONE IN THE OCEAN AND IT STARTS TO RIPPLE OUT THIS THE RIPPLE EFFECT WE'RE WATCHING IT'S GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER >> EVERYBODY STAY HERE WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS WHOLE THING

WE'RE TAKING A COMMERCIAL BREAK COMING UP DONALD TRUMP'S WORLD TOUR IS ABOUT TO END MANY IN THE WORLD ARE SO HAPPY

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